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Credible history vs. revisionist hearsay - Answering faith crisis with real history. A story of magic, murder and betrayal.

Seer Stone v. Urim and Thummim places the Book of Mormon translation on trial, presenting the latest research in one of the most comprehensive treatments of the translation process to date providing encouragement for Latter-day Saints who fear they have been "betrayed" by the translation history taught by the Church for over 190 years.

  • Did Joseph Smith study and master the Nephite language? Did the Prophet tutor some of the early Brethren in ancient Nephite characters?
  • Did Joseph Smith translate the Book of Mormon using a dark seer stone in a hat?
  • Why are progressive historians creating a new history using sources from a man who vowed to wash his hands in the blood of Joseph Smith, while boasting that he had deceived the Prophet and his God?
  • Has The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints covered up its history for nearly 200 years?
  • Was Joseph Smith a treasure digger? During his life, did the Prophet artfully suppress his alleged treasure digging past?
  • Did Joseph Smith cover up his use of a seer stone during the translation, feigning use of the Urim and Thummim?
  • What new information has The Joseph Smith Papers Project uncovered that challenges our understanding of the translation process?
  • Is David Whitmer a credible witness of the Book of Mormon translation? Did you know that David Whitmer consulted a witch and occultic seer stones, denounced Joseph Smith as a false prophet and aided the mob in the persecution of the Missouri Saints?
  • Was Joseph Smith involved in sorcery, astrology and ritual magic?

"Seer Stone v. Urim and Thummim makes a great case for simply going 'back to the basics'! That is, accepting the translation of the Book of Mormon as Joseph said it was done, as opposed to how others claim it was done. It is well researched and very enlightening and a must read for those who are willing to accept the words of Joseph and other prophets at face value." --Kay M Godfrey, Author, Joseph Smith Epoch Historian

"As you read this book, it will validate your knowledge that the Book of Mormon is a real history of a real people. The Stoddards have once again born witness that Joseph Smith was and is truly our Prophet, Seer, and Revelator. You will love this book." --Rian Nelson, Author and speaker, FIRM Foundation

"The Stoddards present a thorough and careful analysis of the numerous errors and sometimes outright falsehoods that have crept into many of the translation narratives, even some by respected scholars, who relied on changing accounts from both fallible acquaintances and also outright enemies." --Leslie Pearson Rees, Author, "Ye Have Been Hid: Finding the Lost Tribes of Israel"

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"Seer Stone v. Urim and Thummim makes a great case for simply going 'back to the basics'! That is, accepting the translation of the Book of Mormon as Joseph said it was done, as opposed to how others claim it was done. It is well researched and very enlightening and a must read for those who are willing to accept the words of Joseph and other prophets at face value." --Kay M Godfrey, Author, Joseph Smith Epoch Historian

"As you read this book, it will validate your knowledge that the Book of Mormon is a real history of a real people. The Stoddards have once again born witness that Joseph Smith was and is truly our Prophet, Seer, and Revelator. You will love this book." --Rian Nelson, Author and speaker, FIRM Foundation

"The Stoddards present a thorough and careful analysis of the numerous errors and sometimes outright falsehoods that have crept into many of the translation narratives, even some by respected scholars, who relied on changing accounts from both fallible acquaintances and also outright enemies." --Leslie Pearson Rees, Author, "Ye Have Been Hid: Finding the Lost Tribes of Israel"

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Joseph Smith Foundation director, author, film producer, speaker L. Hannah Stoddard is the co-author of Seer Stone v. Urim & Thummim: Book of Mormon Translation on Trial. She is the founder of Joseph Smith's Legacy and the producer or director of six documentary films. Hidden Bloodlines: The Grail & the Lost Tribes in the Lands of the North (2017) Statesmen & Symbols: Prelude to the Restoration Unlocking the Mystery of the Two Prophets: Revelation 11 Part 1 (2017) For Our Day: Covenant on the Land (2013) For Our Day: Divinely Sanctioned Governments (2013) The Prophet Joseph: More than we know (2015) In addition to directing Joseph Smith Foundation projects for over a decade, she is often invited to speak on various radio and video programs. Hannah helped direct her first documentary film, beginning at age 16. She has worked as a history and literature teacher, graphic design artist, software developer, videographer, project manager, agriculturist and research assistant. Her work focuses on Church history and doctrine, answers to Latter-day Saint faith crisis questions, educational philosophy, culture and defending the Prophet Joseph Smith.

James F. Stoddard III is the father of 10 children. He is a direct descendant of Asael and Mary Duty Smith, the Prophet Joseph Smith's grandparents, and other LDS Church history figures. He is the president of the Joseph Smith Foundation, including Latter-day Answers, ZionTube, FAQs, Papers, InspiraWiki and Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith. He is the co-author of Seer Stone v. Urim & Thummim: Book of Mormon Translation on Trial and the producer or executive producer of seven documentary films. Hidden Bloodlines: The Grail & the Lost Tribes in the Lands of the North (2017) Statesmen & Symbols: Prelude to the Restoration Unlocking the Mystery of the Two Prophets: Revelation 11 Part 1 (2017) For Our Day: Covenant on the Land (2013) For Our Day: Divinely Sanctioned Governments (2013) The Prophet Joseph: More than we know (2015) Creation and Evolution: A Witness of Prophets (2007) James has worked in private, public, religious, corporate and home education as well as Web development, software engineering, videography and natural health. He is the owner of IntegriVizion, a family business specializing in film production, Web development and graphic design. James spends any free moments working on Highland Cathedral Estate, a planned family retreat and learning facility with perennial gardens and walking trails specializing in experimental farming techniques and four-season food production. He currently serves on the Firm Foundation Executive Advisory and Strategic Planning Board. He also authors many papers and articles on the Web. James has worked as a release time Seminary teacher and as an instructor at the Provo Missionary Training Center (MTC).

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  • Publisher ‏ : ‎ Polariteck (April 11, 2019)
  • Language ‏ : ‎ English
  • Paperback ‏ : ‎ 244 pages
  • ISBN-10 ‏ : ‎ 1644670119
  • ISBN-13 ‏ : ‎ 978-1644670118
  • Item Weight ‏ : ‎ 11.7 ounces
  • Dimensions ‏ : ‎ 6 x 0.51 x 9 inches
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    L. Hannah Stoddard is the lead author of Faith Crisis, Volume 1: We Were NOT Betrayed!, Seer Stone v. Urim & Thummim: Book of Mormon Translation on Trial, and Faith Crisis, Volume 2: Behind Closed Doors. She is the executive director of the Joseph Smith Foundation, and producer or director of seven documentary feature films.

    Nephites in Europe (Episodes 1 & 2, Quest for the Nephite Remnant) (2019)

    Hidden Bloodlines: The Grail & the Lost Tribes in the Lands of the North (2017)

    Unlocking the Mystery of the Two Prophets: Revelation 11 Part 1 (2017)

    The Prophet Joseph: More than we know (2015)

    Statesmen & Symbols: Prelude to the Restoration (2014)

    For Our Day: Divinely Sanctioned Governments (2013)

    For Our Day: Covenant on the Land (2013)

    In addition to directing Joseph Smith Foundation projects for over a decade, she is often invited to speak on various radio and video programs. Hannah helped direct her first documentary film, beginning at age 16. She has worked as a history and literature teacher, graphic design artist, software developer, videographer, project manager, agriculturist and research assistant. Her work focuses on Church history and doctrine, answers to Latter-day Saint faith crisis questions, educational philosophy, culture, and defending the Prophet Joseph Smith. Hannah’s research supports the writings and teachings of ancient and latter-day prophets.

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    James F. Stoddard III is a film producer, author, entrepreneur, and father of 10 children. James is the executive strategist for the Joseph Smith Foundation. He is a direct descendant of Asael and Mary Duty Smith, the Prophet Joseph Smith’s grandparents, and other Latter-day Saint Church history figures. James is the co-author of Faith Crisis, Volume 1: We Were NOT Betrayed!, Seer Stone v. Urim & Thummim: Book of Mormon Translation on Trial, Faith Crisis, Volume 2: Behind Closed Doors, and the producer or executive producer of eight documentary films:

    Nephites in Europe (Episodes 1 & 2, Quest for the Nephite Remnant) (2019)

    Hidden Bloodlines: The Grail & the Lost Tribes in the Lands of the North (2017)

    Unlocking the Mystery of the Two Prophets: Revelation 11 Part 1 (2017)

    The Prophet Joseph: More than we know (2015)

    Statesmen & Symbols: Prelude to the Restoration (2014)

    For Our Day: Divinely Sanctioned Governments (2013)

    For Our Day: Covenant on the Land (2013)

    Creation and Evolution: A Witness of Prophets (2007)

    James has worked in private, public, religious, corporate and home education as well as engineering, videography, property development, and natural health. He has started and helps operate several family businesses and enjoys working with his kids. James spends any free moments working on Highland Cathedral Estate, a planned family retreat and learning facility with perennial gardens and walking trails specializing in experimental farming techniques and four-season food production. James has worked as a release time Seminary teacher and as an instructor at the Provo Missionary Training Center (MTC). His research supports the writings and teachings of ancient and latter-day prophets.

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I couldn't put this book down! Its was fun to read. I loved how they wrote it as if it were a trial with witnesses and all. It is well researched, and provides a huge amount of well-sourced material. It represents arguments on both sides, which gives you the ability to discern truth. They present accounts of those who were true eye witnesses, their character and background of people involved with the different narratives, and their motivations. I really loved the accounts that were given about what Joseph Smith knew about ancient American culture, language, customs and governement to accurately translate, not dictate the Gold plates. Can't wait for more to come!
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James Rogers
5.0 out of 5 stars Powerful Arguments!
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Hannah has done an incredible job researching this book!
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Betty R. Shipman
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Thank you for your beautifully worded testimony.
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Wallace
5.0 out of 5 stars Everyone should read this book!
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This book is full of insightful quotes and references. They make an excellent defense of the prophet Joseph using the scriptures, Joseph's words, Oliver's words, and others, showing that many historians are giving undeserved credibility to "anti-Mormon" historical figures and their documents. Based on my research, I am personally convinced that Joseph used the Urim and Thummim that was prepared for the purpose of translating the plates, and he used his hat at times to block the light. There is enough evidence to support the strong possibility that he often used his hat for this purpose, but, like the authors, I'm convinced that he used the Urim and Thummim with the plates, just as he and Oliver said, and as the Lord instructed. I am also a witness that Joseph Smith was a true Prophet of God, that the Book of Mormon is true, and that it came forth the way Joseph said it came forth. A bitter fountain cannot bring forth pure water, and Joseph was chosen by God like all the other holy prophets, to give us more of God's word. The Book of Mormon is exactly what it claims to be, and, like Joseph, I defy all of earth and hell to refute it.
A special thanks to the authors of Seer Stone V. Urimmim and Thummim for their careful and bold defense of the prophet Joseph and The Book of Mormon. Everyone should read this book after they read and study The Book of Mormon!
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5.0 out of 5 stars Excellent!!
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Hannah is so good at reminding us all to look at the source material. People believe a lie when it's been repeated long and loud. These "new" progressive historical sources when looked into cite one another but ultimately the source material come from a few apostate and disenfranchised individuals whose disingenuous motives become clear. Thank you Hannah for this book and all the work you are doing. It's uhmazing!!!!
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5.0 out of 5 stars Anybody who reads even a vew pages will be blown away by the content
Reviewed in the United States on December 28, 2022
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This is *THE* book for anyone who has been confused by the revisionist history being passed of as "scholarship" into the origins of the Book Of Mormon. Each of the lies, and the originators and perpetrators of the lies about Joseph Smith, the Smith Family, and the translation of the Book of Mormon is exposed here. Names, dates, and the lies themselves are brought into the light. This is a special problem among BYU students since the late 1970s which is when the apostate revisionist historians took over the BYU Religion Department and began teaching the lies as if they were the truth, which has had the effect of driving many students away from the church.
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Leslie
5.0 out of 5 stars Solid, Honest Research - well done!
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I'm so thankful this book was written. The stone in a hat idea never set well with me and I wondered from where in the heck the idea even came! Now I know. It saddens me that God is being written out of history in subtle ways, and that the character of His prophet is likewise being diminished. Thank you Hannah Stoddard of Joseph Smith Foundation for your impeccable dedication to truth, and for giving historical information a proper hierarchy of weight, based on who said it (the Lord being given the greatest weight, and those second-hand accounts riddled with bias or destructive motives lesser or no weight at all). I would hate to think that people who said lies about me today, would, 150 years from now, be considered valid and equal sources to define my character in history. Such is the lot of Joseph Smith - our own church historians should be ashamed of themselves for permitting such biased and inaccurate stories to permeate The history of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
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Michael Cox
5.0 out of 5 stars Good history
Reviewed in the United States on September 2, 2022
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Goes into detail about how the rock in the hat narrative comes only from biased, counterfactual and critical sources: the Hurlbut affidavits and David Whitmer. The view of Joseph translating from a rock in a hat is not history. The view of Joseph translating the engravings with a farmer's hat over the plates to block the light is history. Presents scripture and historical sources in a court case setting. Great purchase, would purchase again. Forward it to anyone still defending Joseph looking in a hat or anyone who left the church because of this issue.
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